Listen to Me Talk Forever [Promethean: The Created]

Today I did an interview with The Gentleman Gamer, in which we discussed Beast: The PrimordialChill, and, of course, Promethean 2nd Edition. Have a look! I know it’s long, so get a snack.

Today is also Sunday, and therefore I pose this question to you: Would you like my next open dev post (on Tuesday) to be about Refinements, or Disquiet and the Wasteland (they’re linked topics, you see)?

(Short and sweet today.)

Comments

37 responses to “Listen to Me Talk Forever [Promethean: The Created]”

  1. Felipe Avatar
    Felipe

    Oh god I am so divided…
    But I vote Disquiet and Wastelands! Curious to see the changes made to them and how can you have a stationary chronicle as a promethean.

  2. Eric Crabtree Avatar
    Eric Crabtree

    Wastelands

    Hearing you answer my questions was awesome. 😀

  3. KingCarnival Avatar
    KingCarnival

    Refinements

  4. Mr.Shades Avatar
    Mr.Shades

    First off…I really wish I could bring myself to say Refinements, as I have been looking forward to seeing what you’ve done with them but I can’t walk past Disquiet and the Wasteland. They are too big to pass on.

    So Disquiet and the Wasteland it is then.

    Thank you, oh Master of Dark Head Wear for asking our humble opinions

    1. Chris Handforth Avatar

      Yeah, I’d agree with that. Disquiet and the Wastelands are just too juicy to pass up on.

  5. Stupid Loserman Avatar
    Stupid Loserman

    It’s gotta be Disquiet and the Wasteland. Treatment of those effects is the most important element to revising Promethean and making it from the best game not many people play to just plain the best game.

  6. Leliel Avatar
    Leliel

    Disquiet/Wastelands for me.

    If anything, they’re even more important issues than Refinements.

  7. Arcane Avatar
    Arcane

    Disquiet and Wasteland, dear heavens, yes, that!

  8. Yossarian Avatar
    Yossarian

    Tough one…I’ll go with Wastelands / Disquiet, but I won’t be sad if it’s Refinements.

  9. bwgustaf Avatar
    bwgustaf

    Disquiet & Wastelands. After watching Gentleman Gamer i’m really interested in hearing how wastelands contribute to the “torches and pitchforks” environment of promethean.

  10. Olympius Avatar
    Olympius

    I’ll say Refinements, but they’re both interesting to me.

  11. Afro Luigi Avatar
    Afro Luigi

    Augh! So many difficult choices…. Ummmm… Disquiet and Wasteland please and thank you!

  12. wildeyes Avatar
    wildeyes

    Disquiet and Wastelands.

  13. Iceblade44 Avatar
    Iceblade44

    Damn you again for so difficult choices. Wasteland and Disquiet(will get to refinements one day).

  14. Nathan Henderson Avatar
    Nathan Henderson

    REFINEMENTS!

    *i’m never going to win that one am I?*

  15. Quinn Y Avatar
    Quinn Y

    I vote for making those inhuman human Alchemists playable because humanity is way overrated. Prometheans who achieve humanity would quickly want to become Promethean again.

    1. Rosicrucian Avatar
      Rosicrucian

      Yes, any sane human would want to be a misshapen freak, forced to never stay in one place and instinctually hated and feared by polite society.

    2. mr.Shades Avatar
      mr.Shades

      …That is not an option in this poll. And contradicts the premise of the game, as stated in the Buy-in blog post.
      Promethean is humanist, of you want to play a transhumanist game both MtAw and DtD are the best nWoD lines suited for it, though literally all other NWoD games can run with it in theme. (Ordo Dracul is based around that, for example)

    3. Matthew McFarland Avatar

      OK, what you’re asking for is not going to happen. I mean, to be clear, you can do *whatever you want* at your table, and (as I think I said in that video, actually), if you’re playing and having fun, I’m happy for you.

      But we’re not making the game you’re asking for. We’re making a game about Created beings who are attempting to become human. If you don’t want to play that game, that’s fine! Take the game, cannibalize it for whatever useful bits are there, take the alchemist rules, add in the Integrity system from the GMC rules revisions (which are free to download, remember), and run and awesome game about alchemists.

      But that’s not Promethean: The Created, which is the game we’re making.

      1. Phaolan Avatar
        Phaolan

        Yeah, what HE said!

        Seriously, I’m kinda sorry that you had to post that, Matt. I’ve said it before (and doubtless shall say it again…) that I love Promethean: the Created for what it is, but I ALSO love it for what it’s becoming. No one needs to agree with me, of course. I am, however, glad that the DEVELOPER of the game and I agree on the point!

    4. reseru Avatar
      reseru

      I really don’t get it. NONE of the World of Darkness games posit that being a monster is better than being human and, in a horror game, why would you?

      Where did all these transhumanism fans come from suddenly?

  16. Matt Avatar
    Matt

    My vote goes to Disquiet/Wasteland. Thanks!

    1. Arcane Avatar
      Arcane

      Promethean always seems to bring them out.

  17. indarkestknight Avatar
    indarkestknight

    Voting for Refinements. I’m really curious about Phosphorus, while Disquiet and Wastelands were touched on in the interview.

  18. NateD Avatar
    NateD

    Oooh, Wastelands! Yaas!

    Also: really dug that interview. Some great little tidbits about Beast (interest level: rising!), and I really like your ethos and style.

    (AND Giovanni Chronicles 4 was one of my favourite oWOD supplements, too! :D)

  19. The Cowardly Scion Avatar
    The Cowardly Scion

    Disquiet and Wastelands, nothing else is precisely as much of a defining feature of the game and little else is as controversial. So I’m eager to see what has been done to perhaps open the game up a bit more while keeping its soul intact. (Small pun)

  20. Mr_Innes Avatar
    Mr_Innes

    Refinements

  21. Andrew Thomas Avatar
    Andrew Thomas

    Refinements.

    My main questions are about how the initial internal animosity between Created and Demiurge gets reflected by the progression of practicing a Refinement and the Pilgrimage itself, and if there are mechanical rewards for activating that relationship, one way or another. I also want to know if any thought is being put to tying affinities to given Refinements to Lineages. Perhaps we may see some manner of tiered Bestowments as a kind of personal Refinement, i.e.: Ulgans having more facility with their quasi-spiritual nature, Nepri having some Medium-esque abilities, or Frankensteins being able to exploit being a composite creature, beyond learning to replace damaged parts?

  22. Ursvamp Avatar
    Ursvamp

    I just want to add that Promethean is by far my favorite of the nWoD games 🙂
    I found that the theme of the game succeeded, better than any of the others, to do the mood of the nWoD justice.
    Ah, I just love it.

  23. Metamurpho Avatar
    Metamurpho

    Wasteland & Disquiet! I’m hoping for some big changes that make things more streamlined.

  24. Illuminated Avatar
    Illuminated

    Refinements!

    The alchemy themes are one thing I love about this line. I’m curious to hear whats new with these, in particular.

  25. Tori Avatar
    Tori

    Disquiet and the Wasteland.

  26. Saibot Avatar
    Saibot

    Refinements, please. They are on of my favourite parts of Promethean.

  27. Ephsy Avatar
    Ephsy

    TL;DH (too long, didn’t heard)

    Disquiet and Wasteland.

  28. stsword Avatar
    stsword

    I vote refinements, please

  29. Thorbes Avatar
    Thorbes

    Both seem apealing, but I’m opting for Refinements.

  30. B Avatar
    B

    Disquiet and Wastelands, please.