Sunday’s Eternal Choice [Promethean: The Created]

Chemo, DC Comics, created by Robert Kanigher, Ross Andru, and Mike Esposito
Chemo, DC Comics, created by Robert Kanigher, Ross Andru, and Mike Esposito

It’s Sunday, and so you, faithful readers, are again faced with a decision regarding what aspect of Promethean you want to hear about come Tuesday morning.

I’ve given the choice several times as “Refinements or [something else],” and while the vote is always close, “something else” always gets picked. As I was typing up notes for my Promethean chronicle (starting up again tomorrow after a long hiatus, just in time to playtest 2nd Edition), I was thinking about Refinements for some NPCs and how their Pilgrimages might have progressed. One of said NPCs was Legion (who shows in Saturnine Night and then in my chronicles as a supporting character in a Mage game). If Legion started on Stannum, what has he learned in the interim? Is he on Aurum, trying to learn about people and how they tick? Or is the memory of what his creators did to him still a little too fresh? Has he studied Mercurius, given his penchant for all things electrical, perhaps with an eye toward bioelectricity and how living things use electrical impulses to transmit neural data? If he were a player’s character, this would happen in play, but given that he’s not, I get to make it up.

In the end I decided he’d switched to Aes; he’s got a throng now (he didn’t before), and his ongoing themes of finding a place in the world, plus his rather unorthodox form (he’s a man-shaped blob of nanite-filled goo) led me to think he’d be a fun bodyguard for the other Storyteller Prometheans for this story. The actual play thread is here if you want to check it out; it’s possible I might let some 2nd Ed stuff slip.

But in any case! What shall I talk about on Tuesday? Would you prefer basic or complex Refinements?


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49 responses to “Sunday’s Eternal Choice [Promethean: The Created]”

  1. Felipe Avatar
    Felipe

    If by basic Refinements you mean the ones from the 1ed Core I vote for them, otherwise I don’t know what you mean.

  2. JohnD Avatar
    JohnD

    Basic for now. The more advanced ones can be saved for later.

  3. Wildeyes Avatar
    Wildeyes

    I see you’re super eager for refinements XD. I vote for basic refinements!

  4. Afro Luigi Avatar
    Afro Luigi

    I’m curious by the distinction of Complex Refinements so I’m going to vote for them.

  5. Chris Shaffer Avatar
    Chris Shaffer

    Let’s go with basic for now.

  6. Satchel Avatar
    Satchel

    Let’s hear about the complex Refinements. I’m interested to hear more about Phosphorum and hoping to get turned around on Aes a bit.

  7. Andrew Thomas Avatar
    Andrew Thomas

    Whichever one covers Bestowments and how they’ve changed, if they’ve changed at all. Of course, now my interested is piqued, and I want to know of what you refer to as Aes or Phosphorus.

    1. FallenEco Avatar
      FallenEco

      Bestowmentss are a Lineage thing still, if I am not horribly mistaken

    2. Matthew McFarland Avatar

      Neither covers Bestowments; those key off Lineage. 🙂 But since both Aes and Phosphorum are complex, I’ll count your vote there.

  8. mr.Shades Avatar
    mr.Shades

    Complex please! I want to wowed and overwhelmed.

  9. Wolfgar Avatar
    Wolfgar

    I don’t have enough information to vote on this. I’ll take Complex.

  10. Yossarian Avatar
    Yossarian

    Let’s get Complex!

  11. Leliel Avatar
    Leliel

    Basic…I guess.

  12. indarkestknight Avatar
    indarkestknight

    I vote for whichever covers the Refinement of Phosphorum.

  13. Nathan Henderson Avatar
    Nathan Henderson

    I’m voting complex out of hopes of learning about Phosphorum!

  14. Allan53 Avatar
    Allan53

    Basic: need to get that sorted before we start looking at complex.

  15. Alessandro V. Avatar
    Alessandro V.

    I vote for Complex Refinement

  16. Verge Avatar
    Verge

    Basic, plus an explanation of what the division looks like in-setting. We’re talking about religious-level “ways of being”, ways of being “human” for creatures with only an outsider view of the species.

    1. Nathan Henderson Avatar
      Nathan Henderson

      Ways of BECOMING human is probably more accurate. Only Mimics (Aurum) are actively trying to BE human, despite their current state.

  17. Metamurpho Avatar
    Metamurpho

    Basic for me. I want the lay of the land.

  18. Nathan Henderson Avatar
    Nathan Henderson

    Speaking of Aes, is it fair to guess that Benefice will be eating Consortium?

      1. Metamurpho Avatar
        Metamurpho

        That’s a fantastic idea! That’ll give Benefice a much needed bit of oomph.

  19. stsword Avatar
    stsword

    I’ll vote for complex refinements, please

  20. Klepomania Avatar
    Klepomania

    I would really like to see complex refinements, they seem like they would be the more interesting choice.
    I’m interested in what the difference is, though.

  21. MugaSofer Avatar
    MugaSofer

    Complex should be fun.

  22. wyrdhamster Avatar
    wyrdhamster

    Complex Refinements, I want to see what the fuss is all about Phosphorum. 😉

  23. Kleptomania Avatar
    Kleptomania

    My vote is going toward complex, as it seems like it will be the more interesting choice.
    I’m also interested to see what the difference is, if there really is much of a difference.

  24. reseru Avatar
    reseru

    complex please

  25. RBK Avatar
    RBK

    Complex. Well… Actually I want to hear about (Pseudo?)Refinement of Flux. Is it more basic or complex?

    1. iceblade44 Avatar
      iceblade44

      well its really a lack of refinement so i would think nether.

  26. iceblade44 Avatar
    iceblade44

    as much as i want complex, give me the classics.

  27. Caleb Cushing Avatar

    Whichever covers the refinement of Flux

    1. Matthew McFarland Avatar

      Neither. That’s an antagonist thing.

  28. Arcane Avatar
    Arcane

    I’m in favor of beginning with the basics, so long as the principle of complex refinements comes out in the discussion(Not the details, just the overview).

    1. SunlessNick Avatar
      SunlessNick

      That’s my vote too. The difference between the types interests me more than any specific Refinement, so, yeah, Basic with a seasoning of what complex means in this context.

  29. Theeds Avatar
    Theeds

    Complex, please.

  30. Tori Avatar
    Tori

    I don’t really understand either so i’m indifferent on this one. I never really understood refinements.

  31. Thorbes Avatar
    Thorbes

    Basic Refinements first, please.

  32. Chazz Avatar
    Chazz

    I’ll vote for basic refinements.

  33. tau neutrino Avatar
    tau neutrino

    Basic.

  34. Casey Avatar
    Casey

    Both! As that’s probably not a viable choice then basic with an overview of what makes one Refinement basic and the other complex

  35. bwgustaf Avatar
    bwgustaf

    basic refinements. I’d like to be able to wrap my head around the basics of the pilgrimage before marching straight into esoterica.

  36. atamajakki Avatar
    atamajakki

    Complex! I want to see this new Phosphorous and any changes you may have made to Stannum and Cobalus, plus any thoughts on the Refinement of Quicksilver in non-crossover chronicles.

    1. Nathan Henderson Avatar
      Nathan Henderson

      “plus any thoughts on the Refinement of Quicksilver in non-crossover chronicles.”

      I think you mean the Refinement of Silver (as that is the crossovery one). The Refinement of Quicksilver (aka Mercury) is Mercurius, which is concerned with the exploration of Pyros itself, and is a Basic Refinement (assuming “basic refinement” are the five from the original core).

  37. BT Avatar
    BT

    Complex please!

  38. Nicias Avatar
    Nicias

    Basic refinements, please.

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