Here’s a little present for folks to enjoy over the weekend: Steve’s sketches for the three Lost Tribes being presented in W20. These are always a great topic for discussion, and I know the writing team traded a fair number of thoughts about these Tribes, so feel free to let us know what you think.
From here on in I’ll post a few finishes from Steve, but I have tons of sketches coming in these next few weeks from the fabled roster of WtA artists from the past 20 years such as Richard Kane Ferguson, Jeff Rebner, Drew Tucker, Brian Wackwitz and Dan Brereton– just to name a few. Would you like to have the chance to comment on all the sketches, some of them? Any particular ones like the Gifts? Let me know. And now, some comments from Mr. Prescott on these pieces:
Not much to say for Bunyip – oh, other than
I still need to add the aboriginal “bunyip” creature drawing in the
background.
Two more that are stickin’ in my craw a little. I not getting the
vibe I want on Mari for the Black Furies – and the Croatan woman looks
a little too “Pocahontas” for my liking. I’m going to work on those
some more tonight.
Croatan – once again I am amazed that with the internet and my some-
odd 15 books about native americans, I couldn’t dig up any really
inspiring or useful Algonkin indian reference. I just went with
northeast woodland indians and kind of amalgamated a handful of visual
cues. She’ll have some cool red war/shaman paint on her exposed skin
(that is actually from the one decent Algonkin pic I have). Notice
the turtle shells on her braids and, of course, the turtle on the
ground.
AWESOME!!!!
(no BSD though, =3 )
totally made my weekend, can’t wait for the finished pieces.
I think Steve might find inspiration from that classical painting of a tattooed Carolina Indian from the early 17th century.
In W:ta the the mound builder Indians of the Ohio valley were the biggest single group of Croatan kinfolk. Unfortunately little to nothing is known about them as well.
I think the susquehannoqs, Machikan, mic-mac and other atlantic coastal plain tribes might also be a good example for Croatan.
As overall. I think Steve’s once again done a great job.
The aboriginal is especially note worthy as all too often they’re depicted as some kind of cute mini-sasquatces and not as the fierce warriors that they were in reality.
I like the Mic-Mac look a lot! Especially the hat/hood things the woman wear – but I felt it might have looked bit too far from our regular native american tropes – might have started to feel as if from another continent if not done perfectly – and perhaps explained. If you (Blue Fox) find any of those pics on the internet, post the links and I’ll check ’em out.
I’ll see what I can get my hands on Sir! ö7
May I suggest you to have a look at a tattoo book called Tribal tattoo designs ISBN 90 5496 073 6; It’s a wonderful book about tribal tattoos in colour from around the world.
Guys, I love it when everybody can contribute the various pieces of knowledge they’ve picked up- this is awesome detailed info for Steve. Thanks!
We’re very glad that W20 is in progress and can’t wait to see the final product. Hopefully we’ll be able to asist to the release event.
Also we’ve compiled all the sketches in a nice gallery on our website so we can spread the love for W20 on Latin America. The website is in spanish, but i’ll leave the link here also…
http://ixn.mx/rol/todos-los-bocetos-de-s-prescott-para-w20/
Thank you guys!
White Howlers look amazing, i loved them Also the other 2 lost tribes. Amazing job!
Lost Tribes yay! I’m so glad to see these guys get full artwork… does that mean they get full writeups, too? I am sad Steve Prescott isn’t doing a Black Spiral Dancer image as well, but hopefully they’ll at least get one nice big image.
Oh, and please let us see and comment on as many sketches as possible! I’m super-glad that Richard Kane Ferguson is on board, he’s one of my favorites.
http://s1065.photobucket.com/albums/u395/Sininen_kettu/
I’ve uploaded these to photobucket Steve.
Hope these will be of help.
I have to say that, despite personal nitpicks here and there, these pictures all ARE WtA art at its best.
I am very thankful for you guys posting these here, so we could comment on them and even give Steve and other artists hints or suggestions. One of the things I felt lacking in V20, was the general clan splat art. If they had been given a chance to be seen by fans, some really bad flops like the Gangrel could have been avoided.
Anyway, Steve, your art has been a great inspiration for me when I started WtA, and I am glad you are so eager to share them.
Thank you ¨^
BTW, I hope you’ll forgive this Fera fan here, but I was wondering if there were plans of showing us the Fera Art down the road? Thank you.
My knowledge is limited on the Croatan and the Bunyip so can’t really say much on those. And like the other people have already stated, the White Howler looks like he just crossed over to the dark side. I know I’m not helping much here, I think I have to come back on this one.
And now for something entirely different, I’m a little late with this but I need to ask this ether way. A question for Steve and a request to the W20 team.
Steve, are you going to do the artwork for the auspices? I hope the auspices receive as much attention and detail as the tribes.
And to the guys at WhiteWolf! Please don’t recycle art this time. That was one thing I did not like with V20, recycled art. I expect all brand new artwork with W20.
I’m afraid I have to disagree: Being that V20 and W20 are basically fan-service books, re-using a few symbolic, iconic pieces from the past is entirely appropriate for the scope and mission of the X20 books. I would agree with your sentiment if all of the art had been “recycled”, but the ones chosen were done so because of their importance and iconic value to the game in its past.
If Rich is going to include pieces like the Josh Timbrook “Flipbook of Death” from 1st Ed., or 2nd Ed., or perhaps the piece used for the protective covers, or whatnot–not pieces to duplicate what is already in the book, but to give that connection back to the original game with more than just homage, but a direct pull from the Old into the New.
And while these are my opinions, and you have yours, I personally think that re-using old pieces (as appropriate) is not an un-necessary Evil at all, and if done with care, would be a great addition to the game to create that “20th Anniversary Edition” feel, rather than a “4th Edition”.
I love these three… It’s nice to see the lost tribes getting their proper representation in this special book 🙂
Also, i’m stoked for new Jeff Rebner art, i’d love to see what he’s been up to.
Thank you Steve
Will Steve (or another artist) be doing spilt pictures for the Black Spirals, Skin Dancers, Ronin & Siberahk?
The artwork looks amazing. It is a good sign that the lost tribes are finally getting some well deserved love.
To bad there is no artwork for the Black Spiral Dancers, it would have been epic if they got love as well. One of my greatest RP experiences was playing a BSD that was kind of redeemed and had to still fight the taint.